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		<title>By: Elemental LED staff</title>
		<link>http://azsustainability.com/2008/08/21/what-are-the-benefits-of-corn-based-plastic/comment-page-1/#comment-1837</link>
		<dc:creator>Elemental LED staff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The over-production of corn is in itself a problem, so will we need an alternative to this alternative?</description>
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		<title>By: evyta</title>
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		<dc:creator>evyta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 07:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion, corn-based plastic is good for substitution of commond plastic, but it&#039;s in some exceptions:

1. If the producen country uses corn not for basic food supply, such some countries use corn as their basic food. And it can be produced in country with biggest corn supply, include landfill and for harvesting

2. the manufacture maybe isn&#039;t economy friendly. Because producing this plastic needs a lot of process utilities, tools, machines, and also a complicated fermentation. So, the manufacture will cost more expensive. But, that&#039;s the risk of the producen for green concept.

Perhaps some researchers can find another way for alternative. Maybe trying to research eco-friendly concept of plastic but from &quot;plant waste&quot; or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, corn-based plastic is good for substitution of commond plastic, but it&#8217;s in some exceptions:</p>
<p>1. If the producen country uses corn not for basic food supply, such some countries use corn as their basic food. And it can be produced in country with biggest corn supply, include landfill and for harvesting</p>
<p>2. the manufacture maybe isn&#8217;t economy friendly. Because producing this plastic needs a lot of process utilities, tools, machines, and also a complicated fermentation. So, the manufacture will cost more expensive. But, that&#8217;s the risk of the producen for green concept.</p>
<p>Perhaps some researchers can find another way for alternative. Maybe trying to research eco-friendly concept of plastic but from &#8220;plant waste&#8221; or something.</p>
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		<title>By: To PLA or not to PLA : CleanTechnica</title>
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		<dc:creator>To PLA or not to PLA : CleanTechnica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This blog post lists the pros and cons of corn PLA, which comes from the kernels, not the cobs. You can read more about it from the primary US manufacturer, Cargill. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This blog post lists the pros and cons of corn PLA, which comes from the kernels, not the cobs. You can read more about it from the primary US manufacturer, Cargill. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pirsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pirsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 07:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is quite a hot info. I think I&#039;ll share it on Twitter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is quite a hot info. I think I&#8217;ll share it on Twitter.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 01:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been contacted by Mr Michael Dwork. He disputes my critiques, I believe my comments to be valid, readers may choose to disregard my previous posts, and should make their own inquires.


Richard   -   Murwillumbah,  Australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been contacted by Mr Michael Dwork. He disputes my critiques, I believe my comments to be valid, readers may choose to disregard my previous posts, and should make their own inquires.</p>
<p>Richard   &#8211;   Murwillumbah,  Australia.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 03:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reply to Paul Smith, who is working for Verterra:


Critique of Michael Dwork, founder of Verterra



I am an occasional reader of Time magazine and stumbled upon a business article by Jeremy Caplan on Verterra Dinnerware in the October 13, 2008 edition (Australian) of Time (page 52). Also at: www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1706699_1707550_1846340,00.html

Jeremy Caplan’s article is careful not to over-state or claim. However, it strongly implies that Michael Dwork had an &quot;idea&quot; in southern India in 2006, that Mr Dwork developed his idea with &quot;engineer friends&quot;, &quot;crossed Asia to find plants for his plates&quot;, &quot;through Laos, Thailand and Cambodia&quot;, &quot;testing dozens&quot;, &quot;in search of the perfect leaf&quot; and so on. Before settling on a palm leaf in southern India - wow. 

I think it should be known that plates and bowls steam-pressed from the leaf-base (sheath) of the Areca (the so called ‘betel nut’) palm (Areca catechu) have been manufactured in southern India since long before 2006.

Indeed, in 2006, steam-pressed Areca palm plates and bowls were already in Indian city stores and on display at trade expos in southern India, and have been imported into Australia with the name of Eco-Vision Bioplate since 2005 or earlier. Areca plates have also been imported into Germany, Switzerland and United Kingdom since or before 2003.

Jeremy Caplan’s article includes a photo of Mr Dwork leaning on a small palm tree. I can say, with reasonable certainty, that this small palm is of the species Areca catechu, the common, plantation, Areca palm. 

It seems Mr Dwork copied a well established product (material and method) and imported Areca plates into the US market - which is hardly an &quot;entrepreneurial gamble&quot; and is definitely not an original idea.

Mr Dwork was a member of the ‘entrepreneurship class’ at Columbia School of Business. Mr Dwork went on, with ‘his idea’, to become the 2007 winner of the A. Lorne Weil Outrageous Business Plan Competition, and received $100,000 in seed funding from the Eugene M. Lang Entrepreneurial Initiative Fund - which is remarkable considering the Lang Fund’s emphasis for originality. 

What is outrageous is Michael Dwork appearing to grab the credit and failing to acknowledge Indian ingenuity, Indian producers and Indian exporters who have manufactured quality steam-pressed Areca plates identical to the Verterra product, and who have done so for years before Michael Dwork arrived in 2006.

For a history of the Areca plate visit: 
www.ecovision.com.au 
www.eco-vision.in/companyprofile.htm


This limited critique has been sent to the following:
Michael Dwork michael@verterra.com 
Jeremy Caplan via Time 
Time magazine 
Columbia School of Business 
United States Patent and Trademark Office
The New York Times 
New York Post
And others.


Richard   -   Murwillumbah,  Australia.

30th October 2008.



Critique of Michael Dwork and Verterra  -  continuation.


The overdeveloped salesmanship practiced by Michael Dwork and Verterra includes the assertion that shipping palm leaf sheaths from India to New York is okay because rural people would otherwise only burn the sheaths. This claim by Verterra is deceptive. 
Although palm leaves may sometimes be burnt for mosquito control, it is arrogant for Mr Dwork to infer that Indian farmers are not aware of the benefits of putting organic material into the soil (composting/mulch).
Also, in rural India cooking is usually over a fire, and dried palm sheaths are an excellent fuel for the domestic fireplace. Removing Areca palm sheaths from rural areas may have unforeseen impacts, as other sources of cooking fuel need to be collected from the forest or fields. 

Verterra are proud to own extensive production facilities in India, which is, no doubt, the optimum for New York based Verterra’s balance sheet. 

Although Verterra’s facilities provide employment, its wider value for rural development is questionable, and may even be detrimental for rural self-esteem, as the villager labours for the foreign company that stole ‘their’ product. 
Other producers of Areca plates include village cooperatives, the greater benefit for rural development would be obvious.
If your concern is to support rural development in India, please consider Areca products from village manufacture.

I like to have Areca palm containers for display in the home. However, from the environmental perspective, the promotion of any single-use dishware is not appropriate - unless intended for areas with serious water shortages.  

In Australia, artists make delightful baskets and ‘sculpture’ from the leaf sheaths of the Bangalow palm  Archontophoenix cunninghamiana, which is also an Arecaceae Palmae.


Richard   -   Murwillumbah,  Australia.

Yes, I am a frequent visitor to India, and I do not have any financial interest in any business associated with Areca products. 

14th November 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reply to Paul Smith, who is working for Verterra:</p>
<p>Critique of Michael Dwork, founder of Verterra</p>
<p>I am an occasional reader of Time magazine and stumbled upon a business article by Jeremy Caplan on Verterra Dinnerware in the October 13, 2008 edition (Australian) of Time (page 52). Also at: <a href="http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1706699_1707550_1846340,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1706699_1707550_1846340,00.html</a></p>
<p>Jeremy Caplan’s article is careful not to over-state or claim. However, it strongly implies that Michael Dwork had an &#8220;idea&#8221; in southern India in 2006, that Mr Dwork developed his idea with &#8220;engineer friends&#8221;, &#8220;crossed Asia to find plants for his plates&#8221;, &#8220;through Laos, Thailand and Cambodia&#8221;, &#8220;testing dozens&#8221;, &#8220;in search of the perfect leaf&#8221; and so on. Before settling on a palm leaf in southern India &#8211; wow. </p>
<p>I think it should be known that plates and bowls steam-pressed from the leaf-base (sheath) of the Areca (the so called ‘betel nut’) palm (Areca catechu) have been manufactured in southern India since long before 2006.</p>
<p>Indeed, in 2006, steam-pressed Areca palm plates and bowls were already in Indian city stores and on display at trade expos in southern India, and have been imported into Australia with the name of Eco-Vision Bioplate since 2005 or earlier. Areca plates have also been imported into Germany, Switzerland and United Kingdom since or before 2003.</p>
<p>Jeremy Caplan’s article includes a photo of Mr Dwork leaning on a small palm tree. I can say, with reasonable certainty, that this small palm is of the species Areca catechu, the common, plantation, Areca palm. </p>
<p>It seems Mr Dwork copied a well established product (material and method) and imported Areca plates into the US market &#8211; which is hardly an &#8220;entrepreneurial gamble&#8221; and is definitely not an original idea.</p>
<p>Mr Dwork was a member of the ‘entrepreneurship class’ at Columbia School of Business. Mr Dwork went on, with ‘his idea’, to become the 2007 winner of the A. Lorne Weil Outrageous Business Plan Competition, and received $100,000 in seed funding from the Eugene M. Lang Entrepreneurial Initiative Fund &#8211; which is remarkable considering the Lang Fund’s emphasis for originality. </p>
<p>What is outrageous is Michael Dwork appearing to grab the credit and failing to acknowledge Indian ingenuity, Indian producers and Indian exporters who have manufactured quality steam-pressed Areca plates identical to the Verterra product, and who have done so for years before Michael Dwork arrived in 2006.</p>
<p>For a history of the Areca plate visit:<br />
<a href="http://www.ecovision.com.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.ecovision.com.au</a><br />
<a href="http://www.eco-vision.in/companyprofile.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.eco-vision.in/companyprofile.htm</a></p>
<p>This limited critique has been sent to the following:<br />
Michael Dwork <a href="mailto:michael@verterra.com">michael@verterra.com</a><br />
Jeremy Caplan via Time<br />
Time magazine<br />
Columbia School of Business<br />
United States Patent and Trademark Office<br />
The New York Times<br />
New York Post<br />
And others.</p>
<p>Richard   &#8211;   Murwillumbah,  Australia.</p>
<p>30th October 2008.</p>
<p>Critique of Michael Dwork and Verterra  &#8211;  continuation.</p>
<p>The overdeveloped salesmanship practiced by Michael Dwork and Verterra includes the assertion that shipping palm leaf sheaths from India to New York is okay because rural people would otherwise only burn the sheaths. This claim by Verterra is deceptive.<br />
Although palm leaves may sometimes be burnt for mosquito control, it is arrogant for Mr Dwork to infer that Indian farmers are not aware of the benefits of putting organic material into the soil (composting/mulch).<br />
Also, in rural India cooking is usually over a fire, and dried palm sheaths are an excellent fuel for the domestic fireplace. Removing Areca palm sheaths from rural areas may have unforeseen impacts, as other sources of cooking fuel need to be collected from the forest or fields. </p>
<p>Verterra are proud to own extensive production facilities in India, which is, no doubt, the optimum for New York based Verterra’s balance sheet. </p>
<p>Although Verterra’s facilities provide employment, its wider value for rural development is questionable, and may even be detrimental for rural self-esteem, as the villager labours for the foreign company that stole ‘their’ product.<br />
Other producers of Areca plates include village cooperatives, the greater benefit for rural development would be obvious.<br />
If your concern is to support rural development in India, please consider Areca products from village manufacture.</p>
<p>I like to have Areca palm containers for display in the home. However, from the environmental perspective, the promotion of any single-use dishware is not appropriate &#8211; unless intended for areas with serious water shortages.  </p>
<p>In Australia, artists make delightful baskets and ‘sculpture’ from the leaf sheaths of the Bangalow palm  Archontophoenix cunninghamiana, which is also an Arecaceae Palmae.</p>
<p>Richard   &#8211;   Murwillumbah,  Australia.</p>
<p>Yes, I am a frequent visitor to India, and I do not have any financial interest in any business associated with Areca products. </p>
<p>14th November 2008.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GREAT!!!!!! This information is very useful</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GREAT!!!!!! This information is very useful</p>
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		<title>By: Paula</title>
		<link>http://azsustainability.com/2008/08/21/what-are-the-benefits-of-corn-based-plastic/comment-page-1/#comment-967</link>
		<dc:creator>Paula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice try.  But a plastic is a plastic.  What we need is to go BACK to the containers and transport systems used in the &#039;50&#039;s.  People re-used their containers which were made of glass or pottery.  If something is not biodegradable in the family compost pile, America needs to be told THE TRUTH up front.  We&#039;re grasping at straws here.  True innovation comes from God.  He is the creator and author of all things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice try.  But a plastic is a plastic.  What we need is to go BACK to the containers and transport systems used in the &#8217;50&#8217;s.  People re-used their containers which were made of glass or pottery.  If something is not biodegradable in the family compost pile, America needs to be told THE TRUTH up front.  We&#8217;re grasping at straws here.  True innovation comes from God.  He is the creator and author of all things.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryant</title>
		<link>http://azsustainability.com/2008/08/21/what-are-the-benefits-of-corn-based-plastic/comment-page-1/#comment-893</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need to recheck your facts about PLA and composting. Natures Work (producer of PLA) is very specific about PLA only biodegradable in a commercial compost setting not backyard compost piles. It needs the high temperatures generated in the commercial facility. 

PLA&#039;s heat instability is also a factor that must be considered. For example, shipping PLA packaging during the summer in tractor trailors exposes the product to temeratures exceeding the 120 degree level causing distortion. Using climate controlled trailors reduces the units that can be transported in the trailor thus increasing the fuel required and emissions generated.

Your last point can be taken a step further and none of the proponents add this to their calculations on net greenhouse gases. Given world demand for grains and mandates for ethanol use in fuels, any increase in the demand for corn will create a need to expand farm acreage which will result in the loss a carbon sequestration by establish plant growth. The ethanol proponents never include this calculation in their facts, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need to recheck your facts about PLA and composting. Natures Work (producer of PLA) is very specific about PLA only biodegradable in a commercial compost setting not backyard compost piles. It needs the high temperatures generated in the commercial facility. </p>
<p>PLA&#8217;s heat instability is also a factor that must be considered. For example, shipping PLA packaging during the summer in tractor trailors exposes the product to temeratures exceeding the 120 degree level causing distortion. Using climate controlled trailors reduces the units that can be transported in the trailor thus increasing the fuel required and emissions generated.</p>
<p>Your last point can be taken a step further and none of the proponents add this to their calculations on net greenhouse gases. Given world demand for grains and mandates for ethanol use in fuels, any increase in the demand for corn will create a need to expand farm acreage which will result in the loss a carbon sequestration by establish plant growth. The ethanol proponents never include this calculation in their facts, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
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		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently bought several corn based water bottles w/ filters believing that at least we would be making more of an effort to reduce the amount of plastic.  I was not aware that they were not recyclable along with other plastics.  When at all possible, we do use glass mugs, etc. but it is not always feasable.  For years, I/we have recycled the plastic water bottles over &amp; over only to find out that they contain toxins...not sure which is the worse of 2 evils...Both my husband &amp; myself were diagnosed with cancer this past year - my husband w/ Hogdkins &amp; me w/ breast cancer.  I wonder if there is anything that doesn&#039;t affect your health &amp; benefits the environment at the same time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently bought several corn based water bottles w/ filters believing that at least we would be making more of an effort to reduce the amount of plastic.  I was not aware that they were not recyclable along with other plastics.  When at all possible, we do use glass mugs, etc. but it is not always feasable.  For years, I/we have recycled the plastic water bottles over &amp; over only to find out that they contain toxins&#8230;not sure which is the worse of 2 evils&#8230;Both my husband &amp; myself were diagnosed with cancer this past year &#8211; my husband w/ Hogdkins &amp; me w/ breast cancer.  I wonder if there is anything that doesn&#8217;t affect your health &amp; benefits the environment at the same time?</p>
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